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continued by Phyllis Pollack
Here
are some of the highlights from the press conference.
Jagger:
Good afternoon, everyone. Good afternoon, New York.
Moderator:
First question, right here.
Question:
To all five of you here, would you explain why was it important for you to make
this film in a small venue in your native Manhattan? Was this audience special,
and if so, why?
Scorsese:
The importance of making the film in a smaller venue for me, I
contemplated it. We discussed doing it in a bigger arena, and I looked into
that, and actually while I was doing it, I was trying to prepare for that. I
began to realize I think I’m better suited to try to capture the group on
stage on a smaller stage, more for the intimacy of the group and the way they
play together, the way you see the band work together, and work each song. I
found that to be interesting, more than interesting. It is a compulsion of mine.
I love to be able to see that, and to be able to cut from one image to another,
movement and that sort of thing. And really, about the intimacy of the group,
and how they work together.
Jagger:
Why, I can't remember what you said now.
(Audience
laughter.)
Jagger:
But the audience was a good audience, because I think they really got
into the spirit of making the movie, as well as enjoying being an audience for
the band. They were a great audience for the band, but I think also, a great
audience for the movie.
Wood:
They were all cameramen.
(Audience
breaks into laughter.)
Jagger:
Really.
Scorsese:
They enjoyed it. The cameramen liked it. Yeah.
Question:
Keith, anything special about that night?
Richards:
The Beacon Theater is special for some reason. It wraps its arms around
you, especially if you can play there for more than one night. And you start to
get, the room sort of wraps its arms around you. And every night gets warmer.
It’s a great feeling room. And also, hey, this band, you know, didn’t
start off in stadiums, you know. (Richards
laugh.s)
Question:
Charlie, Do you want to try that? A special night?
Watts:
No.
(Audience
breaks into laughter.)
Richards:
I knew he’d say that.
Question:
I understand it will be available on regular screens and also on Imax.
How will that experience be different for the fans?
Jagger:
It will be very larger.
(Audience
breaks into laughter.)
Jagger:
But slight imperfections might be revealed.
(Audience
breaks into laughter.)
Jagger:
The funny thing is though, really is that Marty, after looking at all the
options, decided he wanted to make this small intimate movie, and I said,
“Well the laugh is though, Marty, in the end, it’s going to be blown up to
this huge Imax thing, so the intimate moment is shot on Imax.” But it looks
good on Imax. So we got both formats.
So we’re happy with that.
Question:
I’d like to know ask all the band members, perhaps starting with you,
Mick, this movie reminds us of the boundless energy you have in what it takes to
be on tour. Starting with Mr. Jagger, I’d all like to know what vitamins are
you on, and what your workout regimen is, because all of us would like to be
able to do this.
Jagger:
I’ll tell you what to do, forget about that!
Richards:
If we do, you’ll all be on it!
(More laughter from audience.)
Jagger:
Chuck it out. So uh, No gym, no vitamins, I think that day.
Just do it, just get out there, and yeah. You get very pressurized in these
situations. So the thing I always find is with these movie shoots is that you
really have to come up to the plate, and fortunately, we had two nights of this.
Where Keith was saying, it's good to play there more than one night, and I agree
with him, because the first night we played was more like a rehearsal for us in
a way, and by the time the second night came round, we got more adjusted to
playing in a small theater. Because though we played lots of small theaters in
the past, we hadn't done it on this tour, so this was like quite different
suddenly to go into this small theater. So by the second night, we knew we had
to sort of do it, that this was going to be the night with all these people
there and everything, so I felt really good about that particular night, so you
just have to somehow just come and do it.
Richards:
It was a turn on.
(Laughter
from audience.)
Question:
Gentlemen, I’d like to know why you chose Marty as the director.
Jagger:
He’s the best one around.
(Laughter
from audience.)
Question:
What does he bring to this film that other directors wouldn’t?
Jagger:
Oh, I can’t answer that. I mean, you know, but you know, I think that
it’s embarrassing now. He’s not part of the furniture. I mean he’s
actually sitting here.
(Laughter
from audience.)
Jagger:
So he's
a fantastic director and he assembled a wonderful crew, I think he would agree
with that. He got fantastic DPs, camera, lighting, all everyone working on it,
and then very painstaking on the editing to produce the movie that you see. It's
not all in the shooting. It's obviously in the editing, too.
Richards:
And it’s also in the equation. We didn’t’ choose Marty. Marty
choose us.
Question:
To Marty, with the underworld and the mafia being featured in so many of
your films, what kind of comparisons can you now make between a tight mob crew
and the Stones?
(Laughter
from audience.)
Scorsese:
Well, no, that's
an interesting question. I don't think I’d make any direct associations to it.
I mean, but the music is something that deals with, at times, it reminds me, I
will tell you, it reminds me of when I went to see Threepenny Opera back in
1959, 1960, at the Theatre de Lys, and how the music affected me, and what that
was saying, what that play said, and the lyrics. The lyrics were so important to
me in that particular play. I grew up in an area that was kind of in a sense
like the Threepenny Opera, and I think
at times the Rolling Stones' music had a similar effect on me. It dealt with
aspects of the life that I was growing up around, that I was associated with, or
saw, or was experiencing, and trying to make sense of. So it was tougher, it had
an edge. Beautiful and honest and brutal at times, and powerful. And it's always
stayed with me and has become a well of inspiration to this day. As Mick said in
Berlin, he said (turns to Mick), can I take the line from you?
Jagger:
Yeah.
Scorsese:
He said, "I want you to know that this is the only film, Shine
a Light is the only film that “Gimme Shelter” is not
played in,” that I’ve made.
(Laughter
from audience.)
Scorsese:
And when I use "Gimme Shelter" in a film, which I think is more
appropriate, and just as apropos of the world we're living in today, "Gimme
Shelter," when I use it in a film, I don't remember that I used it before.
I say, "Let's use that," and they say, "Marty you did it
before," and I say, “That's alright. Let’s put it in." I keep
forgetting, you know. But it's something that the music has been very important
to me over these years. Thank you.
Question:
In your latest film The Departed, “Gimme
Shelter” has of course been in other films, but you picked “Let It Loose”
from Exile On Main Street.
What made you pick that song? And in the future, in your movies, will you
pick more obscure Stones songs?
Scorsese:
That is from Exile On Main Street. It’s an album I like a lot, and again,
it’s sort of like in my DNA, so to speak, the music, so it’s just came the
way Jacks Nicholson sat down next to Leonardo Dicaprio, and said, “Do you know
who I am?” The tone and that mood, I heard that sound from that song. And I
played it again. So I tried a couple of other things afterwards, because
invariably, you say, “Well that’s the first one, it works, but it can’t
be, working on the first try. It can’t be that way.” So we tried some other
songs, but we went back to “Let It Loose,” and placed it just at the right
moments, in between the dialogue, for the highlights of the song. But it has the
tone and the mood, and again the edge that I thought that the characters were
like, really.
Question:
In terms of what you wanted to capture?
Scorsese:
For me, it was literally the moments you can see the band actually
working together. Each song is like its own narrative, a dramatic story, and the
whole the sound of the band is like a character, one character in each song.
With the grace of these wonderful cinematographers, headed
by (Director Of Photography) Bob Richardson, people like (Camera Operator) Bob
Elswit and (Camera Operator) Ellen Kuras and (Music Editor) Tass Filipos and
(Camera Operator) John Toll, and Leslie, who directed "Lord of the
Rings," (Camera Operator) Andrew Rowlands, they
were able to, like poets at times, be able to know exactly when to move their
camera, and pick up another member of the band. And see when a camera went down.
And remember that we shot this in thirty-five millimeter and not video, so that
we had ten minute loads. We were going down all the time with cameras. Cameras
were running out of film, so another camera would pick up where someone left
off, and that’s why there were so many, to be able to pick up the slack. But
the key was to find the moments between the members of the band, as they played
together, and they worked together, and how they worked it like a machine, like
it’s own entity, in the way it’s done.
Richards:
Almost Swiss motion.
(Laughter from audience.)
Scorsese:
Yeah. Yeah.
Question:
Hello, I’m from Finland. I didn’t see it yet. Still, I have to stand
up and dance. Who chose those (archival) clips from the documentaries that you
showed, and Mick, you said in one of those, when the journalist asked if do (will)
still perform when you were sixty, and you say, “Yes,” well, do you still
perform when you’re seventy?
Jagger:
I don’t know, I…
Richards:
That’s only five years away!
(Laughter
from audience.)
Scorsese:
That’s not that far. That’s pretty close, not that far. Whew! Who
chose the clips? David Tedeschi was the editor of the film, and we worked
together almost nine or ten months together, right, for editing this thing? The
music came together rather quickly, I think, in the cutting, and that was very
enjoyable. The hardest part was putting together the clips. I think there was
over 400 hours of footage that David culled of the documentary sections of
archival footage, and then he chose about forty hours for me to see. And then we
worked from that forty hours, and it was a matter of balancing, saying something,
but not saying too much, and then saying nothing with it. That was the key. And
balancing it, so it wouldn’t unbalance the music in the piece, because to do a
film with all archival footage, I think, would be a four or five hour
documentary. It would be another movie.
Jagger:
Well, you know, there were some moments when the archival footage, I felt,
was going too long, and I felt it would lose it. It would have gone off into
another movie, and that we’re forgetting that we’re in concert, because it
was very kind of riveting, sometimes, the old movie (archival footage). But if
goes on too long, you want to come back to the concert stage. So sometimes David
left them a little bit on the long side. So in the end, we ended up with what we
have, which is good.
Question:
I’m one of the Vh1 winners. I have a question. Do you have any plans to
do an acoustic album like Beggars Banquet
in the future?
Jagger:
It wasn’t really an acoustic album. It did have acoustic guitars on it,
I’m sure. But we don’t have
actually any plans for an acoustic album.
Wood:
How about Unplugged?
Scorsese:
We have some acoustic in the featurette.
Jagger:
We do have some acoustic songs in the featurette on the DVD.
Richards:
When you can’t afford the electricity, baby, you go acoustic.
(Audience breaks into laughter.)
Question:
I loved (your cover of) the Motown (Temptations song) “Just My Imagination.”
Great high point for the movie. I wondered if you guys were ever planning to do
a tribute album to anyone?
Jagger:
I often do tributes to Martha and the Vandellas in front of my mirror.
(Audience breaks into laughter.)
Richards:
Much of that we’ve done over twenty years, and at some time we’ve
covered them all.
Question:
I was wondering, how did you pick the numbers with special guests, and
especially Buddy Guy, your relationship goes back a long way.
Jagger:
We’ve done quite a few shows with Buddy Guy in the past. I think
we’ve known him on and off for quite a long time. He’s like one of those
continuingly wonderful blues performers that you’ve admired.
Richards:
I met him through Muddy Waters, you know, and it goes back a long way.
Jagger:
I think that the thing that Marty captured, the duet thing that we did
with him, was really one of the high points of the movie for me.
Richards:
I didn’t give him that guitar for nothing, man.
(Audience breaks into laughter.)
Jagger:
That wasn’t just for show.
(Audience breaks into laughter.)
Richards---Hat’s
off, a bloody high point to me on that one.
Jagger:
Yeah, and I think the other guests, all really, all in their slightly
different ways, all add to the movie, you know, and not all duets I think really
will work. Because they don’t always do work, those duets. I’m trying to
think.
Wood:
Christina (Aguilera) is very soulful.
Jagger:
But I think everyone likes all the direction, and they all really come
off. So thanks.
Question:
I noticed Al Maysles in one of the shots. How influenced were you by
earlier Stones films like Gimme Shelter and others?
Scorsese:
Al’s sort of the reference to mind for continuity of the number of
wonderful films made with the Rolling Stones, going back of course to Gimme
Shelter, but also Hal Ashby’s Let’s
Spend The Night Together, and Goddard.
Wood:
Cocksucker Blues.
Scorsese:
Cocksucker Blues. And also the
(Jean-Luc) Godard film (1968’s Sympathy For The Devil), in which you actually see the song
“Sympathy For The Devil” come together in the recording studio, which is
fascinating, so this is a direct reference to the past films.
Question:
Marty, when you set-up the sequence in the beginning where you were on
the long distance call with Mick, and you were waiting for the set of songs to
be given to you, how real is that tension between you guys?
Jagger:
Totally real, I think.
(The
audience breaks into laughter.)
Scorsese:
Absolutely.
(More laughter.)
Scorsese:
I trimmed it a bit because the actual phone call was forty-five minutes,
so I cheated a bit. Over forty-five minutes. But the idea is to capture the
spontaneity of the group, and the word “capture” means you have to control
it in some way. But you can’t control the spontaneity. Therefore, the cameras
have got to be in the right position. Then I wanted to go a little further, and
that is have them all moving cameras, but that means they could collide with the
performers, so you have to be very careful, and all this sort of thing, and also,
the band is on tour. So basically, we’re actually kind of talking to each
other, like little talking boxes. So let’s just get that shot. I shot that, I
think, at eleven o’clock at night on video. I sent my assistant over to the
hotel next door. They had white phones. “Get me a white phone,” because I
had to have a white phone. So I shot that. They put it right in the machine,
David and I. I said just get the voice, a little box there, a speaker, like the
voice of Zeus coming out of the air, you know. But the humor of that was that we
could never really be in the same city together for any really given long period
of time. We just couldn’t do it, and so we had to work that way. And I did
trim down the phone call down, that’s true. I trimmed it down. Although me
talking about a camera moving, I couldn’t stop talking. That’s real.
That’s very real, And the set list, itself, I mean, had to be something that
they all worked out almost, I think, ‘til the last minute. And afterwards, he
said you have to know the room, you have to feel the temperature of the audience,
you have to feel what’s happening. As he said, it could be a sore throat, it
could be anything. And so I was just concerned that we got as much as we could
on film, because the film is running out of the magazines at ten clips a minute.
So I wanted to get the first three songs completely with all twelve or fifteen
cameras, whatever it was. But inevitably, some of them are going to go out,
which happened, I think, in “She Was Hot.” But luckily we had the back-up
cameras on “She Was Hot,” you see. I actually found out the set list a
little earlier than that. Someone did purloin it. I don’t want to say the word
“stolen,” or who it was, but we did find it.
Richards:
I didn’t realize it was such hard work, Marty.
(Laughter from audience)
Moderator:
I believe this is the last question.
Question:
This question is for you.
Mr.
Scorsese, this question is mostly for you.
Over the last few years, you’ve reinforced your work with a kind of
development of a public persona in a lot of ways. You did the Amex commercial.
You’ve lent your name to certain causes, and executive produced certain films.
You start and end this film.
And I’m interested, I mean, we haven’t seen a director like this
since Hitchcock, in a lot of ways, kind of the public persona. And I’m
interested in how you’ve cultivated that over the years. And also, to The
Stones, I guess, how you felt about Mr. Scorsese beginning and ending the film.
Scorsese:
Do you want to speak to that first, or should I?
Jagger:
Yeah, well,
we had a lot of trouble working out the ending of the film; Marty had to go to a
lot of different acting coaches to do it.
(Laughter
from audience.)
Scorsese:
Really, really, it was sad, yeah. I do it on my own pictures. I’m sort
of the Edgar Kennedy, the slow burn. You know, the guy always used to go always
go like this (holds his face in his hands in mock frustration). And that's
happens when you make films. And so one of the things to do is to get into that,
and literally send up the hapless director, so to speak, which, and very often,
you do feel like a hapless person sitting there. And the actors doing one thing,
the camera. It starts snowing the other night when we were shooting, it wasn't
supposed to snow, you know, things like that. Do we keep continue shooting? I
mean, but that's the nature of what it is. And to have fun with it. I think
there are so many documentaries now, or there are so many sections of concert
films where you see the actual setting of the concert interview with people.
Well, let's have fun with it. Let's get to the actual tension and the humor of
that tension. Really it’s the good humor of that tension.
Moderator:
I believe we have one more, this lady right here. .
Question:
I wonder whether you had planned for this arc in pre-production, how you
set that up, or whether this happened during the course of the film, where you
found what you were getting, or whether it happened in the editing room?
Scorsese:
That’s a good question. We hoped for that arc. That’s where the
tension is. We need them to perform the way they are. I can't put cameras in
their way. Yet, I wanted to get that arc. I knew that getting certain cameramen
working together, they also could find the angles and find the looks, and know
when to pan to Ronnie on guitar, know when to pan to Keith, know when to stay on
Mick and Charlie, and that sort of thing. And so I was hoping that the cameras
in those positions would get those moments, and then it was constructed in the
editing.
Moderator:
I think this will be the final question.
Jagger:
Thank you very much indeed. Ladies and gentlemen.
(Applause
from the audience.)
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